As Scotsman announces 58% increase in terrorism-related arrests ‘in Britain’, were any made in Scotland? If there were none or very few, why not?

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There are no separate statistics for terrorism in the different parts of the UK. There were 412 arrests in 2017, up from 261 in 2016.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/record-412-terrorism-related-arrests-made-in-uk-last-year-1-4702314

I’ve searched at length for anything including the words ‘Scotland’ and ‘terror’ and ‘arrests’. I found plenty arrests by Scotland Yard but only one with both ‘Scotland’ and ‘terror’, in the Times of January 9th 2018.  Aha, I thought, at least one, but then I read on:

‘One of the world’s most wanted terrorism suspects (Hafiz Saeed) visited Scotland to urge Muslim youths to become jihadis years before 9/11, an investigation claims.’

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/terror-suspect-called-for-jihad-on-visit-to-glasgow-rwq7pttsb

So, it was a story about a jihadi recruiter visiting Scotland more than 17 years ago. It’s been more than 10 years since the Glasgow Airport failed attack and nearly two years since the murder of Glasgow shopkeeper, Asad Shah. It’s not a lot compared to 412 arrests in one year. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that there’s something different going on, or perhaps not going on, in Scotland. I don’t think I’m tempting fate by suggesting Hafiz Saed has had little effect on young Scottish Muslims, nearly 20 years later and although there are no separate Scottish statistics, Police Scotland quietly reassured us, in 2017, with:

‘Police Scotland said there was no intelligence to suggest there is any specific threat to Scotland.’

despite feeling obliged to increase patrols following the Tube bombing in London.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-41289362

If there were few or no terror-related arrests in Scotland in 2017, the question ‘Why?’ seems worth considering.  I explored a few, at some length, last year in:

Scotland and Terrorism: Are we safer?

More recently, is this contributory evidence too?

Racial hate crimes increase by 33% in England & Wales while falling by 10% in Scotland: Who says we’re not different?

This feels like dangerous ground but is it another example of how different Scotland is, from Power-projecting Post-imperial Britain and its House of Saud-friendly elites?

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9 thoughts on “As Scotsman announces 58% increase in terrorism-related arrests ‘in Britain’, were any made in Scotland? If there were none or very few, why not?

  1. Alasdair Macdonald March 8, 2018 / 8:14 pm

    It is surprising that there is no national/regional breakdown of such data. If I lived in, say, Carlisle, or Norwich, or Bristol, or Swansea, or Newry, for example, it would be reasonable to know what the level of such arrests was in my neighbourhood. Policing, to be effective, has to be by public consent and much police ‘intelligence’ comes via good community policing, because the officers make determined efforts to get to know the people within their communities and respond to the kinds of routine concerns, like vandalism, graffiti, drunkenness, noise, etc. This develops respect and trust and people are more
    Ikely to report serious crime, including things like drug dealing, intimidation, serious assault and suspected terrorist activity. Part of this coooperation is providing area data on the types of crimes and misdemeanours in the local area. At our Community Council, each month, community officers from Police Scotland provide a report on the number of offences by category and the proportion detected. This helps people get a sense of how safe their local areas actually are compared to the impression created by, say, the BBC Glasgow and West site, where usually more than half of the articles are about crime. In my local area, there is an average of between one and two crimes per day and these are usually things like peeing in a close, vandalising a building, breach of the peace.

    So, if there were 412 terrorist related arrests in the UK in 2017, how many were in Glasgow? If it was around 5-6 then that would be pro-rata about right, but if it were 1-2 then it is not really an issue, whereas 30-40 Would indicate serious concern.

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  2. David Braidwood March 8, 2018 / 9:15 pm

    As an ex Police Crime Registrar I can assure you that PSoS can provide statistics re Prev of Terrorism offences and any Hate Crimes which have a specific marker placed on them for easy searching. The fact they have no terrorism offences recorded for 2016/2017 is excellent news. They will, sadly, have hate crime recorded but I suspect quite a bit lower than our southern neighbours.

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    • johnrobertson834 March 9, 2018 / 8:50 am

      So do you think this means there were none in Scotland? Or does it have something to do with MI6 or 5?

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  3. Ludo Thierry March 8, 2018 / 10:05 pm

    Wonder if the Hootsmon will carry these stats (from beeb Jockland site)?: The dropout rate for students at Scottish universities is the lowest it has been for 19 years. For the first time in a generation, the retention rate for students is better than the UK average.

    Just 6.2% gave up their studies before their second year in Scotland compared with the UK average of 6.4%

    Across the UK, the 6.4% figure signifies a rise for the third year in a row.
    The new figures from the Higher Education Statistics Agency cover the academic year of 2015-2016.

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  4. Contrary March 9, 2018 / 5:56 pm

    I did hear on radio Scotland earlier today that a bloke has been arrested for having a pile of guns and tons of ammunition in his home in Cumbernauld, and a hit list of people he wasn’t keen on. Radio Scotland loves that kind of thing, not just because of the drama, but to keep us fearful – and glad we are part of the Union which offers so much protection,,,, they don’t seem to realise it’s a bigger reason for us to leave the union, we could distance ourselves from the hate & danger it represents.

    Dunno if he was arrested for terrorism though, wasn’t really paying that much attention, except to wonder if we need another crack down on gun ownership. Might be a while before it shows up on statistics anyway.

    John, do you think that, perhaps, maybe, the ‘free something’ lacks a certain,,, incentivising impact? That a something might be a bit too generalised, perhaps, to get people rallying? What sort of prizes are we talking here? Porsche-sized? Or gold star-sized? Ball park will do 😀

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  5. Ludo Thierry March 9, 2018 / 6:13 pm

    I reckon the prize should be something from Alasdair’s ‘Top Man’ emporium.

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    • Contrary March 9, 2018 / 6:46 pm

      😀

      The mind boggles!

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