I get a doing on polling

What a battering my previous post on telephone vs online polling gets here!

https://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2018/10/are-online-polls-superior-to-telephone.html?showComment=1540881833142#c6144733363865226415

 

 

 

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7 thoughts on “I get a doing on polling

  1. Contrary October 30, 2018 / 7:10 am

    Haha. Yep. You sure did get a doing John.

    Well, it is always good to get educated. Your article on the opinion polls was full of ifs and buts and maybes: so, to my mind, you weren’t trying to claim expert knowledge and no one could have taken it as such. Which begs the question of why James Kelly went to the effort of writing an article about it, instead of commenting directly on this blog? I can only assume he wanted to educated the wider public about how opinion polls work; he does seem to like them.

    I always find remote slating of others articles a bit odd behaviour – a blog is just that, an opinion. Though it’s fair enough to stop us going down wrong paths in assumptions. (Again, commenting directly may have been more productive?).

    Anyway, consider yersel’ well and truly telt, John 😉

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  2. Contrary October 30, 2018 / 7:29 am

    But, back to the poll showing not much change in voting intentions – Robert Graham made good comments previously – particularly it’s amazing anyone votes SNP when their media coverage is so bad – so how do we get people to realise;

    (A) independence for Scotland is not only desirable, but necessary for our wellbeing
    (B) our only choice at this stage for seeing through the independence bit is to support the SNP.

    We cannot assume that support for independence is fully related to support for SNP – unfortunately the people that support independence and not the SNP are in a difficult position, because the snp is the only political party that fully supports independence, it is the only choice until full separation occurs. I find it awkward that we effectively have to pause proper democracy in order to get true democracy, but surely this is a small price to pay – the other parties are so toxic, surely no one still thinks Labour or the Tories have Scotland’s best interests at heart. For the good of the country, the future, our own mental health, for the people, for communities; political ideology needs to be set aside.

    Sigh. Vain hope.

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  3. William Henderson October 30, 2018 / 8:23 am

    Well handled, John. Putting this reference on your blog gives an example of open-ness and fair-mindedness that others could follow. 🙂

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  4. Graham MacLure October 30, 2018 / 3:52 pm

    Well done John you stirred up some interest and debate. I have never been sure if these polls revered by some are instruments to gauge opinion or to help form it.

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  5. Ludo Thierry October 30, 2018 / 5:56 pm

    Was directed to this article by Nana over at Wings. Very interesting – and I haven’t seen the information discussed anywhere else.

    It seems that the Welsh Assembly have not yet repealed the Welsh Continuity legislation. (If one recalls from a few months back – the UK Govt withdrew the Welsh Bill from the application to the Supreme Court – leaving only the Scottish Bill to be considered. If memory serves I believe the appeal is due to be heard in December. The Welsh Continuity Bill got royal assent in June – this was required so that the repeal could take place – but it means the European Union (Wales) Act 2018 has now quietly entered into legal force).

    The Welsh Govt had agreed to take steps to repeal their Continuity Bill. The clever Welsh Govt have, indeed, ‘taken steps’ to repeal – but – have not found any Parliamentary time to complete such a repeal!! (Clearly the Welsh Govt. have learned lessons from both their own and Scotland’s experience of Westminster deals and ‘vows’).

    Link and snippet below – this seems a fairly unusual and interesting development – we’ll see what it ultimately contributes to the whole current brexit/UK Constitution defining process. I strongly suspect Westminster will be most unhappy that the Welsh Govt and Assembly have found this useful ‘wrinkle’ in the agreement made. The more sensible elements in the BritNat elites must be dying a little every day as they see the brexit thread being pulled and their precious ‘unwritten constitution’ come under a bit more scrutiny (on so many different fronts and all at once) thanks to their ‘ultra’ colleagues’ brexit madness. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. I love the idea of the Welsh Assembly and Govt telling Treeza that “Now is not the time… for repeal’.

    ‘Strictly speaking, the Welsh Government has fulfilled the letter (if not the spirit) of the April agreement: the necessary regulations required for the Act’s repeal have been prepared. Tellingly, however, the vote which is required in the Assembly to repeal the legislation has not yet been held. Instead, the Act sits quietly on the statute book. Welsh ministers claim that the appropriate time to hold the vote has not yet been found, but there appear to be other considerations at work…’

    https://www.centreonconstitutionalchange.ac.uk/blog/facing-strain-intergovernmental-relations-between-cardiff-and-westminster

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