Will Scottish Tories revolt to help save devolution?


I know they generally revolt but might they be about to do something good for Scotland? There are 111 powers which the current Brexit legislation would transfer directly to Westminster. A recent Survation poll showed that 62% of Scots want them to come home automatically:


Exactly the same figure as in the vote! No converts to either side? See this for the full list:

Scottish Government will say NO to any power grab in the EU withdrawal bill. Up to 111 powers are at risk. Will it make any difference though?

However, according to the Daily Torygraph yesterday:

‘David Davis is preparing to redraft parts of the Government’s Brexit legislation in order to head off a revolt by Scottish Conservative MPs and the Scottish National Party. The Brexit Secretary has conceded that the Withdrawal Bill will have to be amended to address concerns that the current version of the legislation would result in a “power grab” by Whitehall.’


We’ve already had the story that the Scottish Tories were solely responsible for the Police and Fire services VAT u-turn by the chancellor and the story of the nice young Tory MP, Douglas Ross, supporting the WASPI case on pensions for women born in the 50s. Having fallen back into third place in Scottish voting intention polls and noting the Survation poll results, the Scottish Tories do need all the help they can get. However, as the DUP prove themselves unreliable and unpredictable (unless you know the Old Testament very well) does Tory Central realise they need to ensure the loyalty of their Scottish branch more than they thought they did? The question is, just how many of the 111 powers matter to the Scottish Tories?


14 thoughts on “Will Scottish Tories revolt to help save devolution?

  1. Sam December 3, 2017 / 11:19 am

    Save Devolution = Save the Union.

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    • johnrobertson834 December 3, 2017 / 4:18 pm

      But by doing so they make independence inevitable along the line?


  2. johnrobertson834 December 3, 2017 / 1:34 pm

    It does, I know but I’d rather have devolution max than devolution mini


  3. gavin December 3, 2017 / 2:24 pm

    Ruth Davidson has already stated that her constitutional preference was–“More Union”.

    While I find it difficult to see how the shambolic Conservatives could form an administration post Brexit, there is plenty of time for a scandal involving Labour high heid yins to be “hatched” before 2021( I suspect MI5 has a thick file on many of our senior politico’s–a la Cyril Smith), it doesn’t have to be true . In the event that they DID have a majority at Westminster (or with the continued support of the sectarian Ultra DUP), then I would expect them to concentrate ALL power in London, with Rees-Mogg declaiming— “in the interests of national unity, at a time of great difficulty for our small country blah, blah”.
    Ruthie will be there, smirking—NOW she can stand as an MP!
    What? Lennie or Wee Wullie actually standing up for Scotland?

    Indyref2, did I hear you say? Oh, is that a pig flying past, or a Mariano Rajoy balloon?


      • gavin December 3, 2017 / 7:33 pm

        We should look to the future with clear minds.
        Yes, my comment is on the gloomy side. But…..Nicola has much more gumption and substance than she is credited by all her opponents ( and some allies).
        We have some things on the side of the Angels. Our opponents aren’t as good as much of the media bum them up to be. Not anywhere as good.
        The most important is the preferences of the people who live in Scotland. They don’t all want the same outcome as me—which is Scottish self government. But they certainly don’t want direct rule from London. A substantial majority prefer most things to be run from Holyrood by people THEY elect, and all polling I have seen for a decade or more supports that view. So…….any attempt by Rees-Mogg, Ruthie or Boris to dilute our parliament would be met by electoral resistance.

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    • Alan Gordon December 3, 2017 / 8:38 pm

      It could be Mi5 might need to get their skates on Gavin, the DUP are laying down heavier threats (have they got wind of a done deal on Irish Sea Border?).Sein Fein have a new leader and they are having meetings over the issue of taking their seats at westminster. Lawson felt the need to grab the mike and “other” the Irish. Can only mean that, drum roll for the joke,——-the tory back bench is revolting. Punch line John, the back bench are revolting, have you seen the front bench? Strong and Stable it is not. Emily Thornberry could be the giver of unity for Labour.

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  4. charlesobrien08 December 3, 2017 / 8:58 pm

    Could Scottish Tories save devolution,I hope not I hope they do their usual and stab Scotland in the back,and bring independence quicker bring on a republic give us the “Scottish Free State”.


  5. Clydebuilt December 3, 2017 / 10:26 pm

    Scottish Tories Are revolting. By definition . . .

    Breaking . . . Dugdale’s out of the jungle . . . . Aand . . . Claims she’s leaving the jungle as a “Better Person” . . . Wonder what we can expect?


      • Clydebuilt December 4, 2017 / 10:13 pm

        Geeze John . . . . Did I type the word “Vote” . . . . Anyway I don’t care . . . . Killie won at the weekend . . . . Might have been better if Dugdale had stayed in a bit longer. . . . Was tripping over her chin. . . . Then she was greeted by Rodden . . . Best liked ex Journo in Scotland . . .


  6. Alasdair Macdonald December 4, 2017 / 11:23 am

    As with VAT on Police Scotland, I think that political pressure makes some things inevitable and even this Government realises that when you piss into the wind it goes all over your own trousers. However, since most politicians and their media cronies view everything through tactical political lenses, the ‘inevitable’ is presented in a way that they hope reflects well on Ruth’s Doughty 13. Of course, if the Government actually produces some kind of Smith Commission blancmange which, in effect, has no effect on powers then they will, of course, back it. Along with Wullie and SLAB they will then demand the Scottish Government DO SOMETHING!

    One can, of course, apply the principle of charity, and I think it is something we should do as a first step, and assume that they are acting with good motives, that many are, in fact, ‘proud Scots’ and want to ensure a fair deal for the country (i.e. Scotland). They live here, they have family and friends here, they have businesses here, etc. So, some might, indeed, see that there is danger in far too much power accruing to a small coterie in London. This wariness about power has a long tradition within strands of Tory thinking. Remember that the Tories have had people in their ranks such as Alick Buchanan Smith. So, notwithstanding my opening cynical paragraph, there is,something to go along with, as I think you are implying, John.

    Finally, there is the realpolitik. It might be that some within the party ranks are seeing that the Government’s case and Government itself is a busted flush and that the UK might well just fall apart, so, let us look for our own interests, amang oor ain folk!

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  7. daibhidhdeux December 5, 2017 / 11:18 am

    Unfortunately, that’s a nope to this article’s thesis, folks. They all trooped through the lobby like the cannon fodder they are to back WM’s power grab – lemmings yin an’ a.


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