A didnae ken the Kirk was so progressive. Weel noo ye ken!


Will sisters not be put off by the idea of a burning bush?

After a day spent hiding from the telly, outside or in my study with the Sex Pistols as a safety filter against any monarchist sound pollution, I woke up to find that the Church of Scotland was not only absent from all that flummery (they don’t have the fancy gear) but that it seems to be leading the way on equality. In the Observer today, we see:

Rt Rev Susan Brown installed as Church of Scotland moderator

Church of Scotland to draft new same-sex marriage laws

Even as death approaches, there is no way, I’m going back to the Kirk, I left as a 12-year-old in 1963, but if I had to, it looks like the best of the bunch.

A female moderator and same-sex marriage would have been a bit of a shock for my dad back then and ministers were, in my mind, like the one in this well-kent joke:

Grumpy Minister: ‘Ah had a dream last nicht. Ah dreamt ye were aw doon in the fires o hell. Ye were moaning and wailing and beseeching the Lord wi ‘Oh Lord, we didnae ken it would be like this.’ And the Lord in his infinite mercy said ‘Weel noo ye ken.’

There’s a variation where he refers to gnashing of teeth, an old wife says ‘but meenister, ah havnae goat any teeth’ and the minister says ‘Madam, teeth will be provided!’

My point? Even our church is better than those in the rest of the UK?

4 thoughts on “A didnae ken the Kirk was so progressive. Weel noo ye ken!

  1. David Braidwood May 20, 2018 / 1:54 pm

    Sadly my daughter got married in a same sex wedding last year and used a humanist celebrant as her COS Minister refused to officiate saying that the COS didn’t recognise those marriages. If they’re now catching up with society that can only be a good thing.


  2. Hugh Wallace May 20, 2018 / 10:29 pm

    Rev Brown is one of the good ones. I’m NOT CoS or any other religion (all bonkers, no offence) but come from that sort of background. Rev Susan was the minister of the church my best pal’s family went to back when we were in school (many, many moons ago) &I knew her a bit & she came to speak at our school assemblies on occasion. Our school rector was a horrible man & lay preacher who did not like Rev Brown (she was a) female, and b) not ‘religious enough’ (ie. rabid) in her preaching) but the story goes that she made him kneel for a protracted length of time when she was ordaining him (or whatever the thing is that do in the CoS to make people official mouthpieces) rather than for the usual cursory time. If the CoS is reforming you can bet Rev Susan is in the thick of it & if there were more Christians like I remember her to be I’d consider joining the club. (I’m not holding my breath.)

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